Mike Pence uncorks a blunt confession about his relationship with Trump

Former Vice President Mike Pence offered a blunt take on his strained relationship with his former boss in a recent interview.

"What's your relationship with him like now?" local news anchor Roop Raj asked Pence at the Mackinac Policy Conference this week. "When's the last time you picked up the phone and said, 'Hi, President Trump, it's Mike?'"

"It's been a while," Pence admitted, winning a laugh from the audience watching him.

"Are we talking months?" Raj pushed back after Pence tried to get away with a short answer.

Pence said he congratulated Trump and the First Lady after the 2024 election.

"We had a warm exchange," Pence said. "But, suffice it to say, we don't talk as much as we used to."

When he was Trump's vice president, Pence spoke with him "every day, almost all day long, early, late," he said.

"The president and I had a great working relationship," Pence said. "It didn't end the way I wanted it to, but I'll always believe by God's grace I did my duty: to support and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Pence notably refused Trump's demand to block the certification of the 2020 election results, as rioters chanted "Hang Mike Pence" and erected a makeshift gallows outside the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.