Former Trump supporter explains how to deprogram the president's dead enders

President Donald Trump has created such a strong political movement, some compare it to a cult. Yet on Tuesday Rick Wilson, the head of the anti-Trump Republican group The Lincoln Project, spoke with a former Trump supporter at a group called Leaving MAGA about how to deprogram Trumpers.

"And let me just open with my usual customary apology," Leaving MAGA founder Rich Logis told Wilson. "I would like to say that I'm sorry for my past support of Trump and MAGA. When I was in MAGA, the Lincoln Project was the devil — loathed and despised. And if I had met you when I was in MAGA, I would have said that you were an existential threat to our country."

Logis continued, "My journey really started in 2015. I was very politically disillusioned. I believed that the two parties had been the same — that they failed to represent most of the country, except for the wealthy and the powerful. I was unapologetically all in. I spoke to Trump groups. I donated to them. I was a sponsor. There was probably no one who was as devout a supporter of Trump and MAGA as I was.And born from that apology and recounting of my story was our organization, Leaving MAGA, which we founded as a new community — a new destination for people who are leaving MAGA, who are having doubts."

After Wilson gave Logis credit for realizing he was wrong about Trump, adding that that is difficult for many people to do, Logis predicted that many MAGA supporters will stick with the president no matter what.

"The fact is that MAGA, unfortunately, is going to remain, which I think makes our work at Leaving MAGA even more crucial," Logis said. "I believe that we're at the vanguard of trying to create this new community for people."

Former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), who also previously supported Trump, argued in February that Trump supporters lost the right to deny they are in a cult when they continued to back Trump despite his wars against Venezuela and Iran. Trump had run for president in 2024 claiming he would end all wars.

“I thought you wanted him to end wars all over the world,” Walsh said. “You said you wanted him to end American entanglement in conflicts and wars around the world. America shouldn’t be involved in these wars, you said. That’s why you’re voting for Trump, you said.” Then, despite Trump’s actions against Denmark, Venezuela and Iran, they still support him.

He added, “And you don’t like when people call you a cult, Trump voters?What else are people to think when you voted for Trump to get us the hell out of wars around the world, and instead he gets us involved in wars around the world and starts new wars, and you still sing his praises and support him? What are we to think, MAGA, but that you are a cult?”

The former congressman then concluded, “You’ve got no argument against people calling you a cult. And if he takes us to war against Iran, and you clap and applaud and throw him flowers, Trump supporters, I will be at the front of the parade calling you a cult.”

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